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BELGIUM

Two telegraph seals, different versions of the same design, and a single seal of an earlier design have so far been found.

Updates. The above was written by Steve Hiscocks.
I have added many new colour illustrations. On close examination,
there appears to be many similar types. I have categorised them to
reduce the amount of re-ordering.
There will need to be more re-numbering. No pricing as yet.

 

Oval types.

Posts and Telegraphs.

 

Type 13 Type 1
#Ov1 Posts & Telegraphs, 1880, 37.8mm #Ov2 Posts & Telegraphs, 1885, 37.8mm

 

Type 14 Type 14
#Ov3 Posts & Telegraphs, 1888-92, 38.2mm #Ov4 Posts & Telegraphs, 1898? 37.8mm
(Rays not at 90 deg. to ellipse)

 

Telegraphs only.

Type 12 Type 2
#Ov5 Telegraphs, 1896-1901, 39mm #Ov6 Telegraphs with imprint, 1897-98, 39mm

 

Belge-Ov7 Belge-Ov8
#Ov7 Telegraphs, 39mm #Ov8 Telegraphs, 1898, 37mm

 

Hisc. Type. was Description Mint Used On telegram
Hv1 Ov1 - 1880. Scalloped. Dark blue. - - -
Hv2 Ov2 - 1885. Scalloped. Dark blue. - - -
Hv3 Ov3 - 1888-92. Scalloped. Grey blue. - - -
Hv4 Ov4 - 1898? Scalloped. Grey blue. Rays not at 90deg. - - -
Hv5 Ov5 - 1896-1901. Scalloped. Blue. - - -
Hv6 Ov6 3 1897-1898. Scalloped. Grey-blue. - - -
Hv7 Ov7 3 Scalloped. Slate-blue. - - -
Hv8 Ov8 - 1898. Scalloped. Blue. Rays not at 90deg. - - -

 

Hiscocks added the following note:

Note.   #3 [Now #Ov1] looks rather like an etiquette but I have seen five or six examples used as seals on folded
                telegrams from 1892 to 1898.

My note: Hiscocks observations appear to have mixed several types together.
Type #Ov6 has an imprint of F. Meyer Van Loo / Gand (Ghent) 1897.

 

Rectangular types.

Belgian State.

My note on the ones below: These are turning out to be more complicated than at first appeared.
The sizes, colours and number of scallopes varied over time. I will do a table showing these, including
Hiscocks images, scaled according to his stated sizes. He has quoted 'Scalloped 6' for his two images.
If he is using the same definition as for normal perforation, the number in a span of 20mm
, then H2 was Scalloped 7.
I have dropped the use of this terminology in favour of quoting size and number of 'Bumps along the top' [BaT] .
The sides mostly had 7 'bumps', but some have 8. It is also known for the top and bottom to be different.

Belge-9
Belge-9 1902
Type #R1
Long
top-right.


Imprint.
F. Meyer Van Loo, Gand
(1885-1906)

1900 - top
1902 - bottom

49.6 mm
BaT = 18
Belge-sp-Depose-1 Type #R2

'DEPOSE'


Date?
50.5 mm
BaT = 17
Bottom = 18
Sides = 7

Belge-1903 Type #R3
Short left
ends.


15 Sept. 1903 (Nandrin)
49.8 mm
BaT = 19
Bottom = 20
Sides = 8

This may be the same as #R5
Belge-8 Type #R4
Short left
ends.


1906
50 mm
BaT = 18
Sides = 7

Looks the same as the last
except for the scalloping.
Belge-3 Type #R5
Short left &
bottom-right
bolts.


1907-8
? mm
BaT = 18
Belge-4c Type #R5
Short left &
bottom-right
bolts.


1907-8
? mm
BaT = 18
Belge-4
Belge-4
Type #R6
Accents high up.
scalloping at top
and bottom
different.


1908
50.7 mm

BaT/B = 20/19
or
BaT/B = 19/20

8 side bumps

Belge Type #R7
Accents low down and thick.,
Lightning bolts blocky.


51mm
BaT = 18
Belge-1903 Type #R7a
This looks like #R6 except for
the position of 'TÉLÉGRAMME'
relative to the lightening bolts.

51mm
BaT = 18
16 September 1903 Villers-le-Temple.
Belge-1920-1 Type #R8a
Accents low down,
Lightning bolts blocky.
Top 'G' different

1920-23
50mm
BaT = 16
Belge-H1 Type #R8b
1927-35
50mm
BaT = 16
Very similar to last except perhaps
top-right thunderbolt.
Belge-5 Type #R9
Center of 'M's do
not reach bottom.


1934-6
50.6 mm
BaT = 16
Belge-DB5 Type #R10
Date ?
49.1mm
BaT = 18
(bottom 17)
7 side bumps
Belge-17 Type #R11

Date ?
49.4 mm

Perf 11½
Belge-15 Type #R12

1936
? mm

Imperf x perf ?
Belge-1939 Type #R12b ?

1939
? mm

Imperf x perf ?

 

Hisc. Type. was Description Mint Used On telegram
Hr1 R1 - 1900. With imprint. Scalloped Red-brown. BaT = 18 - - -
Hr1a R1 - 1902. With imprint. Grey-brown. - - -
Hr2 R2 - Date? DEPOSE . Scalloped Light grey. BaT = 17, bottom = 18, sides = 7 - - -
Hr3 R3 - 1903. Scalloped Light grey-brown. BaT = 19, bottom = 20, sides = 8 - - -
Hr4 R4 #2 1906. As last, but BaT = 18, sides = 7 - - -
Hr5 R5 - 1907-8. Short top-right. Scalloped Dark greenish grey. BaT = 18 - - -
Hr6 R6 - 1908 Scalloped Light brownish grey. Accents high up, BaT = 19/20 - - -
Hr7 R7 - Date? 51mm. Scalloped Dark greenish grey. BaT = 18 - - -
Hr8a R8a - 1920-23 50mm. Scalloped Dark greenish grey. BaT = 16 - - -
Hr8b R8b #1 1927-35? 50mm. Scalloped Greenish grey. BaT = 16 - - -
Hr9 R9 - 1934-6. 50.6mm. Scalloped. Light grey. BaT = 16  - - -
Hr10 R10 - Date ? Scalloped Dark greyish green. BaT = 18/17 - - -
Hr11 R11 - Date ? Perf. 11½ Light grey. - - -
Hr12 R12 - 1936 Imperf x perf ? or torn from strip ? Light grey. - - -

Hiscocks added the following note:

Note. The dimensions given exclude the shading in the margins of both, although this might reasonably be regarded as part of the design.
                There are many differences in design but one of the most obvious, apart from the colours, is that the accents are almost touching
                the first two 'E's in TÉLÉGRAMME in #1 [now #R7b] but are very small and over 1mm above the 'E's in #2 [now #R5] .

 

Director of Telegraphs and Telephones ("REGIE van T.T. " or RTT).

Belge-6 Type #RT1
Short
top-right.


"REGIE van T.T."

1945
49.3 mm
Imperf.
   
Belge-7 Type #RT2
Long
top-right.


1945
49.1 mm
Imperf.
   
Belge-10 Type #RT3
High
bottom-right.


1949
47.6mm
Imperf.
Belge-11 Type #RT4
Low
bottom-right.
Different
insulators.


1957
47.2mm
Imperf.
Belge-DB-3b Type #RT5
like RT3 but
more bars
above & below
insulators.


1963
47.4mm
Imperf.
Belge-RT-6 Type #RT6

bottom bolts
low and
smaller centre.


1963
48mm
Imperf.
Belge-RT-7 Type #RT7

bolts close
to centre.


?
46.5mm
Imperf.

 

Hisc. Type. was Description Mint Used On telegram
HT1 RT1 - 1945 Imperf. Short top-right. Light brownish grey. - - -
HT2 RT2 - 1945 Imperf. Long top-right. Grey. - - -
HT3 RT3 - 1949 Imperf. RTT. High bottom-right. Grey. - - -
HT4 RT4 - 1957 Imperf. RTT. Low bottom-right. Light grey. - - -
HT5 RT5 - 1963 Imperf. RTT. More bars. Grey. - - -
HT6 RT6 - 1963 Imperf. RTT. Smaller center. Light grey. - - -
HT7 RT7 - ? Imperf. RTT. Bolts close to center. Light grey. - - -

 

 

New regie t.t. Logo New regie t.t. Logo
#RT8 1973, 49mm Logo on a Telegram envelope
to show this is not inverted.

 

Hisc. Type. was Description Mint Used On telegram
HT8 RT8 - 1973 Imperf. Red on white. - - -

 

 

TELEPHONE.

Seals-pg-17ba Later type
#1 1897, 43mm? #2 1897, Estimated 39mm   (no imprint)
On a telephone bill of 7 September 1897.

Hiscocks added the following note:

Note. Two further seals or labels as shown above have also been found. These have the word TÉLÉPHONE rather than TÉLÉGRAMME
                but also seem to have been issued by the Telegraphs Department with designs very similar to those used for telegraph seals.
                The black one has not been seen used but the brown one was used in 1901 to join two pages of what seems to have been a telephone
                bill very much as we would use a staple today.
                the status of these labels or seals is not known and information would be welcomed.

My note: I have seen several examples of the brown one.
Like the telegraph stamps, there are several variations.

Hisc. Type. was Description Mint Used On telegram
H1 1 - 1897. Scalloped. Black ? - - -
H2 1 - 1897-1898? Scalloped. Black - - -

 

H1 Type #3


Imprint.
F. Meyer Van Loo,
Gand

1901

BaT = 18
1906 type Type #4

No Imprint.
TELEPHOON

1906
51 mm
BAT = 18
Seals-pg-17bb Type #5

TELEFOON
High accents

1926-45
48.5 mm
BAT = 16
Seals-pg-1910 ? Type #6

TELEPHOON
at the bottom

Date ?

BAT = 17
Bottom = 18

Hisc. Type. was Description Mint Used On telegram
H3 3 2 1901 Scalloped 5.9 Red-brown. BaT = 18 - - -
H4 4 - 1906 Scalloped 6.5 Red-brown. BaT = 18 - - -
H5 5 - 1926-45 Scalloped Red-brown. BaT = 16 - - -
H6 6 - Date? Scalloped Red-brown. BaT = 17/18 - - -

 

Belgian Congo

Three examples of the seal shown below have recently appeared on internet auctions
They dated from 1944 to 1945 and had been used to seal folded telegrams in the usual way.

Updates. The above was written by Steve Hiscocks.
I have replaced the image and found more similar types.
I have also seen a poor image of a 1935 example that
looks different to the others.

 

Belge-Congo-0 Type #1
Short thunderbolts
particularly
bottom-left.


1935
? mm
Seals-pg-17ca Type #2


1943-9
49 mm
Belge-Congo-2 Type #3
small obliques
on 'E's.
'BELGISCHCONGO'
one word.


1948
? mm
Belge-Congo-1 Type #4
no accents
on 'E's.
Short letters
at sides.


Date ?
49.1 mm
Perf. 10.8

The position of the word 'TELEGRAM' relative to the thunderbolts is significantly different on these.

 

Hisc. Type. was Description Mint Used On telegram
H1 1 - 1935. Perf. Light bluish green. - - -
H2 2 #1 1943-49. Perf. Light greyish green. - - -
H3 3 - 1948. Perf. Light greyish green. - - -
H4 4 - Date? Perf. 10.8 Light greyish green. - - -

 

 

If anyone can provide scans to help with this, I am happy to give appropriate credit.

 

 

Comments, criticisms, information or suggestions are always welcome.
Contact:   Emale
Please include the word 'Seals' in the subject.

 

Last updated 29th. Nov. 2017

©Copyright Notice: This work was originally started by Steve Hiscocks and being continued by myself (Steve Panting).
For simplicity, my additions are under the same conditions as the original work by Steve Hiscocks.

 

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